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#1 Re: Off Topic » Think of ways to boost activity on these forums » 2008-09-04 18:42:29

I was under the impression she's not back until Monday. Well, I wouldn't exactly bet on the  computer, unless she's in a large city or town, I'm not sure they have computers for guests' use there. And she did go to Tunisia to unwind.

#2 Re: The Archives of 24 » Who Was Your Favourite 24 Villain? (Season 3 and 4) » 2008-08-30 17:12:22

They are supposed to be the smartest of the smart..... but with a few exceptions, they are either : a) socially inept, like Chloe or b) Hard-ass bureaucrats, like Hammond, and Chapelle to an extent. In other words, a typical government organisation wink:D.

#3 Re: New in Town » Hello 24Fans » 2008-08-30 17:06:42

Hey. Nice to see a new face. smile

Welcome to the boards.

#4 Re: TV (except 24), Movies and Music » I scream, you scream, we all scream.... » 2008-07-26 19:46:45

I won't hold it against you Dan wink:D. As for me, I never did get in to Star Trek either, but am still deep down a hardcore X-Phile.

What, Nick Chinlund on 24? Urgh, arghh. Oh no, I cannot see him as anyone else as the sick twister necrophile Donnie Phaster. Same guy who played a child molester on Con Air, IIRC. Just the thought of him makes me shudder.

#5 Re: TV (except 24), Movies and Music » I scream, you scream, we all scream.... » 2008-07-25 17:43:55

Oh, I'm absolutely psyched. Can't wait to see it next Friday when it opens here. Went to pick up the tickets today. I do get that warm and fuzzy feeling again, seeing the trailers and stuff. Ahhh, it's all coming back to me now.

#6 Re: TV (except 24), Movies and Music » The Great Music Debate » 2008-06-19 19:55:26

Past Present Fortune wrote:

Unlike many of you on these forums I love many different types of music such as rock, rap and even the occasional pop.
...but I think I'm open-minded.

Anyone else here like me?

Watch the tone, Past Present. That can be almost considered a personal attack and already is condencending. Just because everyone doesn't like some type of music doesn't mean that they do not like many types. And it does not give you the right to draw conclusions.

#7 Re: Current 24 Debriefs » Kiefer Promises Best Season Yet » 2008-06-16 16:44:10

jack_addict wrote:

but what's wrong with saunders? wink. the guy was good enough alright.

lol:lol: For some reason that just cracked me up. And I do agree with the statement *grin*.

As for Voight and Tony's possible role: the uber-baddie thing does have a bad ring to me, as we know the past. I do hope that as far as Tony goes, it's the last option that Steve presented. Since, if it's A, we all know he won't survive the day if Voight's character is pulling the strings. And as for B, I don't see there being any way to force Tony to work for them, as pretty much the only reason for that on the personal level is gone, IMNSHO. I still don't think he'd do that *again* if it's the whole civilian casualties angle.One more thing against option A, I really don't see Tony working as a midlevel henchman or even 2IC with his knowledge of the system. We know he has more than just a small independent streak when it comes to accepting orders, or had anyhow.

#8 Re: Off Topic » 5-13 » 2008-05-13 17:47:09

Maybe it was the spirits of said green house that killed it and not Almeida. Maybe you upset them.

#9 Re: Off Topic » 5-13 » 2008-05-13 16:39:59

Ave Caesar....

Otherwise an OK day, but swamped with work *wall*. So pretty tired now.

The date does seem to live up to the implication in my case.

#10 Re: Off Topic » carlos supporting obama » 2008-05-01 11:17:57

McCain isn't that bad if you think who were the possible option. The evangelicals. Who don't really see the separation of church and state, imho. The thing with him is that if he wins, they really need to think carefully who the VP is gonna be. As he is already 71, it's not a small possibility he might die in office. Granted, his mom is like 95 or so, but still.

But all in all, I would hope Obama would get the dem nomination and presidency, but we'll see.

#11 Re: No Rules - Enter at your own risk! » new 24 magazine - spotlight on...... » 2008-02-17 12:49:07

I never wanted him back after s5, nor would have I wanted him there in the first place had I known what they will do to him. I just wished they would have handled his demise with a little more consideration and class that he deserved.

Tony was always the character that was the most lifelike in a way, closest to a "normal person", so to speak. He was put in situations that got you thinking "what would I do in that situation", since nothing could ever happen to Jack, that he would die. Whereas Tony was fair game.

I hope you're right about the undercover op, I really do,because if you aren't they have blown it. Bringing him back as a terrorist is undoing every single things they had him stand for in s1-5. He grew as a character and evolved each season, now they just undo that.

I cannot help but feel betrayed.

#12 Re: No Rules - Enter at your own risk! » new 24 magazine - spotlight on...... » 2008-02-16 16:30:16

Hmm,uhm, I know I haven't really commented on the issue for a few reasons, some of you know why. But this...I have to try and say something. This is gonna be long so bear with me, for this once.

Am I angry? No.Not anymore, more like weary now. Resigned. Back in S5 I was angry, I was livid for what they did to Tony and how they handled it. No silent clock, hardly even a mention afterwards, or so I hear ( I stopped watching after that ep, for those of you that don't know). Tony was, aside from Jack, the only person still alive who had been there from the beginning and in some ways having been through a lot more than Jack. At least when it came to the consequences and emotional baggage. And they practically toss him out. It was a slap in the face, adding an insult to the injury of killing him and Palmer and Michelle before that, pretty much with the same fate sad.

And then I hear of the S7 trailer and watch it. I kept telling myself it cannot be that. It cannot be as bad as it looks, they just want it to appear that way. After they told us stupid, clinging-to-hope fans, who have watched the show from the beginning to get over it,  that he is dead and buried, then they pull this. I wanted to believe that he has not truly gone over the way of Nina and Saunders, that he would not sacrifice the lives of innocents just to get his revenge. Apparently I was wrong, if this article that J_A mentioned holds true.

Wasn't it enough that they killed Tony once!? mad . Do they hope that some of us come back now as they bring him back??!! It's ratings and money, that's all they care about these days. They haven't cared what the fans think as long as the money flows in!:mad::mad:. As if Nina and Saunders weren't enough of agents gone bad. They should have let him just be dead, at least that would have been somewhat credible.

You already killed him once, goddamn it! Why do they twist the knife in the wound and now bring him back only to drag Tony and all he stood for through the mud. What on earth do they hope to accomplish by this, except dishonor him!

Every last shread of so called respect I had for the writers of 24 is utterly, totally gone. It's just about the money, screw everything else, be it credibility or loyalty. Or well, maybe I'm in the minority, if it's all about the explosions and action, not abbout the credibility of the plot or development of characters, don't know. Jack gets away scot-free, this Senate hearing will be nothing but a slap on the wrist as they need him again.

There's only one way it will end, Tony will die (again) one way or the other if he is bad. The bad guys never win and Jack always survives.

Time to chamber the last round and go wait in the corner for what happens.

#13 Re: The Archives of 24 » Season 3 - all episodes » 2007-09-08 10:34:02

Alright everyone. Cool down a little, no need to be at each other's throats, ok smile. People can't always agree on everything.

And try to get back on subject.

Hehe, yeah smitten I agree, Chase is a good character. Seems to (most of the time big_smile) work well with Jack. But doesn't appreciate being sidelined, and why should he, he is just doing his job. Regardless of the fact that Jack wants to keep him out of harmd way if he is dating Kim. Uhhmm, wrong line of work for that.

Gael, the first time I saw what was going on, my reaction was "Not again!". But they played it pretty well, even if Kim was again the one who had to get into trouble again for discovering it big_smile.

The whole scheme that Jack, Tony and Gael devised is immensely ellaborate, I've only now started to realise it, trying to figure it out. So many things to take into account and even then, so may things go wrong during the day that affect the operation. Tony gets shot, Chase goes rogue and heads to Mexico and then some other tihngs still to come....

Ahh, then there's Tony and Michelle. I really liked the way they brought up the fact that the two are married. The rings, hehehe. They work well together, running CTU. And they also bring out the personal aspect into CTU and to the show in general, jmho. Some of my favorite discussions between them is in these eps.

"I'll go anywhere with you, as long as I don't have to cook."

"Sweetheart, if you promise not to cook, I will take you with me anywhere" smile

That being one of them.

Oh, the angst. The look on Michelle's face when she found out Tony had been shot. And yet, she had to stay at CTU as there is no one else, essentially. That has got to be hard. She couldn't really deal with it as she had to keep things running. Aww sad. And then when Ryan does come in, he isn't about to let Michelle leave. *sigh*

#14 Re: The Archives of 24 » season two: episodes 13-18 » 2007-08-09 18:52:42

Heheh, Carrie comes into play. Tensions mounting in CTU. Heheh. And then there's the Cyprus recording storyline.

Not to mention Tony cool.

Auda:"You Americans..."

Tony: (scoffs) "We Americans, what?"

Sorry to disappoint you smitten but it's Marc Casabani, not Cerassini, who plays Omar smile.

Torture,hmm. That is a complex issue, it can be so much more than physical torture. Threats, that kind of things. I agree with you on most accounts, but pointing a weapon at someone, torture? There I disagree. While it is, certainly, emotionally distressing, I wouldn't say it's torture. Now, if the weapon is pointed at a family member and they say unless you talk, they'll kill him or her, now then I'd say it is torture.

Jack is more inclined to use the physical kind, but he did resort to the mental one with ali. Since he seemed like the type who wouldn't care what they did to him physically.

#15 Re: The Archives of 24 » Favourite Quotes From Seasons 1-4 » 2007-07-27 17:30:13

Heh, with the risk of appearing like a total controling idiot, I just have to post the direct quote from the scene that emma mentioned. It's such a great scene and the dialogue is terrific . I know it by heart big_smile. Fanatical, me? Naaahhh.:)

Well, all we've been able to dig up on him are a few random medical records under one of his known aliases. He had an MRI on one of his knees, there's a prescription for antibiotics, treated for HIV ...
Dalton:  Her pulse is spiking. Someone hasn't been using protection with Marcus Alvers.
Michelle: She's probably had sex with him.
Tony: See Nina, my colleagues in the next room tell me something in those medical records concerns you. I'm guessing it's not the knee.

#16 Re: The Archives of 24 » Season two: episodes 1-6 » 2007-07-22 18:04:07

Ah, alright, 4 eps down. What can I say, Almeida is God big_smile. Tony is really good with people, both at handling and reading them. Case in point Paula and George."Try to tune it out Paula." . "I mean, if you're just trying to get outside the blast radius ..."It's nice to see that development in him as he steps into George's shoes and starts to run CTU. And takes care of Kim in the process smile.  It was quite telling that when they started to plan this op to get Jack undercover and told him aout the nuke, the first one Jack looked at for confirmation was Tony. Not George.

#17 Re: The Archives of 24 » What is the most unforgiveable thing Jack does in seasons 1-4? » 2007-07-19 15:03:17

smitten wrote:

Well, I think if you're going to have an affair, really it's best not to have one with your number two at work. Also, Jack does fine-tune his sixth sense when it comes to deception in the light of this. I doubt he would completely trust anyone ever again, not even, say, Chloe.

I remember someone else having a relationship with their second in command at work. *hahem*. But that turned out a bit different, then just an affair.Hehehe.

And I do agree with Mozz's comment about Jack ever laying a hand on Tony big_smile.

I can't really think of anything that would be absolutely unforgivable. Most of the things were judgement calls, made in a tight spot. Hindsight is always 20/20.  No matter who makes the calls, it's always easy to analyze it afterwards with all the facts.

#18 Re: The Archives of 24 » Season two: episodes 1-6 » 2007-07-18 08:39:23

But for some reason we both got drawn to the dark side as things progressed. cool

#19 Re: The Archives of 24 » Season one: episodes 19-24 » 2007-07-18 08:37:11

Heh, yeah. George is just hilarious, "Jack opted to stay in the field, literally.". His comments somewhat lightened the somber mood of the eps. As for Teri, I don't think she's stupid as such. THe last scene with Nina was in my opinion just a classic case of wrong place, wrong time. But hey, future seasons might have been quite different had she survived this one.

One thing that occured to me while watching the later eps here. Even though in S1 Jack is officially the director of CTU, he has never been there to actually run it smile. He's always in the field.  In this season it's George who runs it, and in the future it's Tony or Michelle, even if Jack has a director position. Bet you he just couldn't handle paperwork and the bureaucrats big_smile!

Oh, bring on S2 and more Tony! big_smile

#20 Re: The Archives of 24 » Season One, Eps 13-18 » 2007-07-05 19:01:50

Nevermind the idiotics of the amnesia plot...But ah, the point where Kim calls CTU and Tony answers smile. May be the first time he tries to help her, but not the last.....hehe. There's always been some kind of 'warmth' in the scenes between Carlos and Elisha. Even in this first one. It's nice to see that develop bit by bit, but that's enough of that for now. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here big_smile. The safe house was hit, so she didn't really trust anyone at CTU at that time, but she did at least tell him that it was hit and stuff.

At this point, the Palmer storyline seems a bit stale, although Haysbert does a really good job. Especially when Palmer gets angry, he really takes control of the whole scene with the presence and the intensity.

#21 Re: TV (except 24), Movies and Music » Summer Blockbusters » 2007-06-12 06:00:21

Heh, Transformers was a classic as a cartoon, used to watch that too. We'll see what comes of the movie.

Simpsons, heheh, looking forward to that, although I am a bit worried how they can sustain the momentum for a whole 90 or so minutes as opposed to a 25 min ep.

Ocean's 13, yep. The reviews have been quite positive. The second one was a bit of a let down , so i'll hope this will be better.

Never really watched any of the Bourne movies or read the books, so I won't comment on it.

As an old Die Hard fan it's interesting to see how the new threats of the 21st century play into Mclane's adventures. But I do get the feeling he might be a bit old for that....both the actor and the character.

And another summer blockbuster that hasn't been mentioned yet: Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. Anyone seen it?I went to see it a couple of weeks ago and I think it was pretty good. Admitted, a bit confusing at times with so many plot lines, but all in all good entertainment for forgetting everyday life for a few hours.

#22 Re: Current 24 Debriefs » Episodes 23 & 24 » 2007-06-08 10:23:35

Didn't they say he might regain some vision in his other eye, at least. Shame though what happened.

#23 Re: The Archives of 24 » Season One Revisited » 2007-06-08 07:48:12

Heh, watched the two first eps too. Ah what can I say, so much has changed since then. I did like the beginning, as weird as it felt seeing Jack in a domestic setting. The scene between him and Kim did have a good feeling in it.

Even if it was more Kiefer than Jack in the beginning, it was a nice ground to built things on. The harder edge comes later as things start to happen.

Then, Almeida big_smile. Where to begin? Heh, the ever present sarcasm, and his doubtful nature. "Oh and he's Mr. Clean, huh?" "But when you and I punch out, we're something else. OK?" cool:D:D. Almeida is God.

He's never been too good at being just pushed around.You could see it as Jack gave him an order, not too happy to follow it...but he did. And later as he puts together 2 and two about what happened to Mason in Jack's office lol . Not buying Nina's explanation. "Very incisive", even then smile.

They started with a good mix of action and lead-ins. Not just continuous action and explosions right in your face all the time. The way it should be.

#25 Re: The Archives of 24 » Favourite Quotes From Seasons 1-4 » 2007-05-28 20:43:16

Another classic Tony line: See Nina, my colleagues in the next room tell me something in those medical records concerns you. I'm guessing it's not the knee. cool:cool:

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