Possible Finale Episode Spoiler

hardy24 · 2007-04-18 22:54:59

Okay, thought it was about time someone posted in here. And while what i've got to post is technically a spoiler, it's missing a crucial detail, which means it's pretty much harmless (unless your super serious about staying spoiler free, in which case why are you even reading this?).

Last chance to stop reading.

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Okay, the spoiler goes thus, that after the crisis has been averted, and everyone has had there "goodbyes", the final scene, Jack is walking away (from where ever he is), contemplating the day or some such, when a car pulls up, window pulls down, cut to Jack's face in complete and utter shock as he tries to process who he is seeing.

Character TBD asks him to get into the car.

Jack get's in car (possibly because force is applied)

Car drives off.

Tick Tock. End of Season

Source is someone on a spoiler forum, who claims to live near the set, and who's tips have been correct so far.

So the question is, who is "Charcter TBD"

Anyone brave enough to have read this far, guesses?

24nut · 2007-04-19 06:29:43

I really want to know who this is, it sounds really cool, apparently it is going to be someone who was previously on the show a while ago, but what would shock Jack more than a dead person in that car, what if someone he thinks is dead, isn't.

this is what the spoier says exactly:

Now Jack is walking through CTU. The show wants to point out Jack seeing everyone being together. Chloe is with Morris. Doyle is with Nadia. Buchanan is on the phone with Karen. But Jack is all alone. Jack walks outside. We watch him walk down the street and down an alleyway.

Jack hears a gun being chambered and freezes. Then someone says "Step into the alley. Slowly. Keep your hands behind your head. Turn around, very slowly." Jack turns around, and registers pure shock as the script says.
The person lowers HIS gun and smiles a little. There is a car parked next to him. The person says "Get in, Jack. There's a lot I have to tell you." Jack gets in and the car peels out.

End of season.

So we know it is a man, we know that it is a friend of Jack's,so who could it be, the person is a bit of a joker, because he goes to scare Jack as his back is turned, then when he turns around and realises who it is, he lowers his gun and smiles, so i think it is theirfor, either David Palmer or Chase. I cant see anyone like Heller joking like that.

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hardy24 · 2007-04-19 09:00:15

Okay, well actually, I'm not entirely sure it will be a man, The spoiler comes from a first draft, and so i'm thinking the "him" and "his" could just be a place-holder, I know when I'm referring to someone who I don't know the sex of, I write "him" just as a natural reflex.

Also, not sure about it being a friend of Jack's, It is after all the character that smiles, and not Jack.

The only thing we have to go by is that it will be a shock to Jack.

deadmanmoz · 2007-04-19 11:38:03

Hang on firstly why is doyle with nadia and not milo!
Makes ya wonder if milo dies.

Hmmmm, a nice ending and a good spoiler, i like it.
Could be Chase, but why would he hold a gun to Jack.
Who else could it be.
Henderson maybe? extreme i know
Curtis!!!!!!!!! As a bad guy!

hardy24 · 2007-04-19 12:10:58

Hmm, okay, we're getting into other spoilers which I didn't want to discuss so that more people could join in the discussion, but from what i've heard moz your wondering is right.

24nut · 2007-04-19 12:58:11

hardy24 wrote:

Hmm, okay, we're getting into other spoilers which I didn't want to discuss so that more people could join in the discussion, but from what i've heard moz your wondering is right.

thats what i heard, but didn't want to be the one to say it.

hardy24 · 2007-04-19 13:15:18

Okay then, lets get back to trying to guess "character tbd"

Sum up quickly what we know, or what we think we know.

1. It will be a shock, possibly more for the viewers than for Jack, or perhaps the other way around, but it will be a"shock"

2. Trust(?), this is an odd one, because some versions of the script extract have Jack getting into the car out of free will, implying he trusts them, others suggest some force (a gun) is used to get Jack into the car.

3. Gender, it's been implied it's a man, but don't completely rule out the women.

4. It's also been suggested that whoever is in the car will be a regular, or atleats a recurring guest star (from the beginning of) next season, which would appear to rule out anyone with other commitments for next season (decreasing the chances of Dennis Haysbert and Carlos Bernard)

24nut · 2007-04-19 15:19:17

ok, in return to your points their dan.

1. It will be a shock to Jack, this means that it will be someone that he thought was gone or dead.

2. On the trust side, the spoilers i have seen shows that the gun is not used in a forceful way, it is used to make sure jack doesn't turn around and shoot whoever it is, maybe Jack isn't in a very trusting mood at the end of the day, after all, this is Jack Bauer, if you were going to suprise him in an alley then you go with a gun to make sure he doesn't shoot you. Apparently person tbd lowers their gun when Jack see's them and smiles, this means that they trust Jack enough to lower their gun, this means that more imporntantly, it is someone who trusts Jack.

3. Gender, your right, it could be a man or a woman.

4. Well when it comes to being a regular or guest star then thats not much to go on, as if it was a big return to 24, then im sure they would be able to fit it in, again it is slim that it will be Dennis Haysbert or Carlos Bernard, but it isn't impossible, for example during the interview with Carlos, when he was asked about Tony being dead or returing, he said that he couldn't comment, now we all know that Carlos is a joker, i know that first hand when i met him, when i asked whether Tony was dead, he said he couldn't comment, now i have no idea how they ould bring back Tony, but im personally not going to rule it out.

Carlos Bernard is in the tv show Nurses, according to IMDB, now we know they are not the most reliable of sources, it was said that he would be in a the pilot, playing Dr Richmond. But the casting announcement for the pilot did not contain Carlos.This was also the case in variety and the futoncritic. So Carlos's commitments are unknown.

Dennis Haysbert is also carrying on with the Unit, so he may be pretty busy.

hardy24 · 2007-04-19 15:49:52

Okay,

1. I think we all agree on that.

2. Hmm, you make your point well, though I still feel as if this could change to fit the person, and that when the first draft that all this is based on was written, the writers themselves hadn't quite decided who it was going to be. Though i am leaning towards it being someone he trusts, using a gun to ensure Jack doesn't react wildly and so they can control the situation.

- 2.1 - The gun brings up another point, now I this seems a little iffy, but thinking about it, there are certain characters who I can't imagine handling a gun, David Palmer for example, never ever held a gun on the show. Same goes for Heller.

4. It's simply something to take into consideration, though yes I believe this is more a hinderance for Dennis Haysbert than Carlos Bernard.

24nut · 2007-04-19 18:04:41

2. Hmm, you make your point well, though I still feel as if this could change to fit the person, and that when the first draft that all this is based on was written, the writers themselves hadn't quite decided who it was going to be. Though i am leaning towards it being someone he trusts, using a gun to ensure Jack doesn't react wildly and so they can control the situation.
- 2.1 - The gun brings up another point, now I this seems a little iffy, but thinking about it, there are certain characters who I can't imagine handling a gun, David Palmer for example, never ever held a gun on the show. Same goes for Heller.

i agree, the gun will be used to stop jack acting wildly. With your comment concerning David Palmer, i know it may be hard to imagine him holding a gun considering his background, but if he was in hiding, if their was some kind of cover up that no one knew about, similar to Jack in season 4, then he may be wary and adopt some new habbits, being cautious may be one of them. After all he stood up against those kids in the parking lot and grabbed the baseball bat as it was swung towards him.

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hardy24 · 2007-04-19 18:41:36

24nut wrote:

After all he stood up against those kids in the parking lot and grabbed the baseball bat as it was swung towards him.

Still, try imagining David Palmer holding a gun, personally I just can't picture it, it just doesn't seem right to me.

24nut · 2007-04-19 19:46:51

I know it does seem strange.

deadmanmoz · 2007-04-23 09:47:33

What about Mandy or Marie Warner!

hardy24 · 2007-04-23 09:53:31

Both are possibilities I guess, though it being one of them would probably illicit more of a confused reaction from Jack and the audience.

J_A · 2007-04-23 13:34:38

havent read the entire topic but heard this on another forum (well, the 24 myspace). and this of course heats up the discussion of someone who is presumed dead. thoughts that it might be tony or henderson. not sure how good the chances of that are tho. henderson, yeah, but that would make me go up the walls and throw the TV out of the window (if it weren't new and expensive ). really, but for henderson to come back - jack did promise him to help him disappear, of course, but... I just don't want it to happen.

personally, I'm sure you all know that I'd die to have Tony back on the show

and I'd love to see him as a bad guy, now that would be something that'd keep me watching!

deadmanmoz · 2007-04-23 14:15:46

I think it sounds like an awesome ending although the options dont bother me very much.
Mandy and Marie wouldnt be great.
Henderson would p*ss me off no end and i'd never watch it again ever ever.
Tony wont come back, but if he does its stupid.
If hes a bad guy, maybe, but still i dunno, bad guy means he'd die all over again!!!!

Maybe it will be Mason or Chappelle!!!!!!!

hardy24 · 2007-04-23 14:51:54

I keep coming back to Tony, and I'd say that if they could justify it, then he'd surely have to be favourite.

Frankly the discussion of who it's going to be is an odd one because for every character that it would be a shock, the reasons that would make it a shock also make it unlikely and a potential "stretches believeability to breaking point" moment.

A couple of other possibilities, people have mentioned "tony but as a bad guy", but what about "Henderson but as a good guy", not sure exactly how it would work, but Henderson having done something that fundamentally changes how we see him, so maybe not a good guy, but not a bad guy. Just throwing it out there.

Another possible, how about Richard Walsh. Because really of all the people we would class as dead, his death scene does have some potential ambiguity. For example, (note, working off memory here), what we actually saw was Richard take a bullet and then go still, Jack being pinned down and believing Richard was dead raced away from the scene. We saw nothing else, granted there would have to be some decent explaining at the start of s7 or in the prequel, but of everyone, it's definetely possible.

The only mark against his return could be that not everyone remembers who he is. But this could be fixed by strategitically placing a box showing his "greatest hits" at the right time, just like the one which appeared in the final scene of day one as Jack craddled Teri, showing Jack, Teri & Kim at the start of the day.

J_A · 2007-04-23 17:40:37

tony, bring him back by all means, as long as we don't watch him die again. if tony turns out to be the one who kills jack in the end, and then they both die, fine by me. but just to bring him back to kill him AGAIN, NO. no no no no no.

henderson as a good guy : NO definitely not. I will not ever in my pathetic life forgive him for doing what he did and no matter how "good" he may have become he will never ever live down what happaned.

richard walsh, oh well. we never really saw too much of him but from what there has been, he sounded like a decent guy and jack owes him his life, so hey, why the hell not. it wouldn't be controversial enough though, in my mind, and yeah I was just about to say before I read your last paragraph, dan, not everyone knows who he is, if they've started watching after season 1.

in my book, people who can't be back are michelle, david palmer (we really DID see him take a bullet in his brain!), george mason (though hell, he could have jumped off the plane, but it would hurt his heroic death. I want to believe he really did go down as a hero.), nina and all those other characters.

really, the most likely ones I see as highly possible are those that died or didn't die in season 5. thus tony or henderson

24nut · 2007-04-23 17:44:08

i still think it will be Tony.

hardy24 · 2007-04-23 18:00:10

There's an outside shot that it'll be Logan. Though you'd say that Jack would have to be told about Logan's apparent death between now and the end of the season for that to shock Jack.

J_A · 2007-04-23 18:02:44

yeah exactly. so far we still know nothing, right? and I dunno if logan would be shocking enough since his apparent death only happened this season

hardy24 · 2007-04-23 18:14:57

We know zip, he has literally vanished off the face of the earth, or just died peacefully in the back of an ambulance contemplating what the writers have against ex presidents.

J_A · 2007-04-23 18:16:56

hardy24 wrote:

We know zip, he has literally vanished off the face of the earth, or just died peacefully in the back of an ambulance contemplating what the writers have against ex presidents.

ROTFL LMAO

well put, dan, indeed

frankly, as much as I miss Tony, they've jumped the shark with his death and now to bring him back would be even worse. plus, we all EXPECT him to be the one right now, so it's the LEAST likely thing they'll do. they'll dig out someone we haven't thought of.

hardy24 · 2007-04-23 18:27:45

Yeah, suggestions for this that i've heard fit squarely into two categories, "I Want It To Be" & "I Think It Will Be", I think tony wins the first by a landslide, nobody's quite sure about the second.

J_A · 2007-04-23 18:33:47

hehe, yeah. I'd say you're right.

oh and on the mention of Heller, wasn't the last thing we heard of him (my status is ep 16) that he survived that car crash in s5? so that wouldn't actually be a presumed-dead-shock, would it?

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