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#1 2008-05-06 20:46:48

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uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

dan, as webmaster i'm kinda assuming you are sometimes in contact with other 24 webmasters... so.. uhm.. what's the deal here?

http://twentyfouronline.com/spoilers/seven/

should I be worried that carlos's name is neither in the list of regulars nor in that of the recurring characters?

(for anyone else, if you don't want to see who else is returning, you should probably stop reading now)





The cast/crew resumed production on the new season April 22, 2008. Before the strike, they had 8 episodes completed.

Season 7 Cast

Regulars:

Kiefer Sutherland (Jack Bauer)

Mary Lynn Rajskub (Chloe O’Brien)

James Morrison (Bill Buchanan)

Cherry Jones (President Allison Taylor)

Janeane Garofalo (FBI Agent Janis Gold)

Recurring/Guest:

Colm Feore (First Gentleman Henry Taylor)

Jeffrey Nording (Larry Moss, FBI Agent)

John Billingsley (Michael Latham, Security Specialist)

Bob Gunton (Ethan Kanin, White House Chief of Staff)

Rhys Coiro (Sean Hillinger, FBI Agent)

Annie Wersching (Renee Walker, FBI Agent)

Carlo Rota (Morris O’Brien)

Jayne Atkinson (Karen Hayes)




and also, there is absolutely no mention of him in the "more info on season 7" - except for what we know from the prequel - that he is *believed* to be in charge of the attacks and that he's presumed dead. now i'm getting worried. it's all gonna be a hoax. they're using tony's character to lure us in to start watching and then they'll get rid of him a couple eps down the line - if we're even lucky to get that much.

ok ok , maybe i'm overreacting. maybe that list simply wasn't comprehensive. but my nerves are shreds. lol. i need january to roll on - and fast.


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#2 2008-05-06 20:56:39

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

Hmm, three possibilities.

1) It's a mistake, and omission that they've not seen.
2) There not sure if Tony is "regular" cast or "recurring" and so don't want to put him in either, for fear of being hideously wrong about it.
2) They've made some half-hearted gesture to an spoiler-phobic visitors (who have been living on mars of the past year or so) who may just skim that top cast list before deciding they don't actually want to know anything.

or some odd mix of all three. If you really that bothered I can email the webmaster in question. You could did it yourself but without the secret handshake your unlikely to get the whole truth.


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#3 2008-05-06 21:10:09

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

hardy24 wrote:

If you really that bothered I can email the webmaster in question. You could did it yourself but without the secret handshake your unlikely to get the whole truth.

yes, i am thinking that the secret handshake would help. i checked TvSquad.com, which was listed as the source there, and they do have tony mentioned - in the context we know of, that he's returning and how - but not in the cast list either...
and if


*another spoiler*



the main bad guys are coming "out of africa" then I frankly don't see how they're gonna tie tony into that. of course, jack's being in africa btw s6 and 7 will put him in that context, hence the two hour prequel.

can you just hear my nerves wreaking havoc in my brain? dammit, i should never have found out about tony coming back... not before january. aargh.

in conclusion, yes, please e-mail the webmaster.


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#4 2008-05-06 21:25:32

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

Okay, i've emailed webmaster in question, not sure how quickly to expect a response.

I don't thinks it's been suggested that any of the bad guys will be coming from Africa, all that we do know is that a Coup in an African country is likely part of some bad guys plan. Connecting the dots between Jack in Africa and Tony in the US could be as simple as ...

1) Bad guy wants a coup in Africa, Jack is there to see the first stages of it.
2) Tony goes undercover in bad guys US operations to find out why


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#5 2008-05-07 07:41:56

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

hmm, possibly. at least 1) is something that I think is unavoidable. as far as 2) goes, I don't know. hopefully tony is undercover with *someone*. why or how is yet to be determined.
speaking of which, i read another thing yesterday. posting it here. it's about the s6 ending where they planned to bring tony back. now, i had heard of the 'tony in the dark alley' storyline, this one was new to me. maybe not to you. but here it comes:

"Jack drops off of the helicopter (on purpose) and Buchanan knows not to go look for Jack and that if he ever wants to be found he will be.Jack makes it to the shore and sits and looks off into the ocean. There’s complete silence as Jack ponders where his life goes from here, he’s at the crossroads of his life. Then out of the silence we hear a faint sound. As the sound grows closer we realize it’s a helicopter. Jack looks behind him at a house on a cliff and a piercing white light focuses in on him as the helicopter descends down and lands on the beach.

Jack takes out his gun and he thinks it’s CTU to come and detain him but it’s not. A heavily armed special forces unit pours out and they make Jack drop his gun. Jack complies and the men put a blindfold over Jack’s head and take him inside the helicopter. The soldiers place Jack next to their leader who remains unseen as he’s talking on a cell phone which obscures his identity. The man on the phone hangs up and we go to complete darkness as we are now watching from Jack’s perspective.

Then we hear the voice. It went something like; “I’m going to remove your blindfold Jack, but you need to understand something first. There are people within our government who want change. Two years ago I was part of that change and I payed a steep price for my patriotism… That price {Jack’s blindfold is removed} ….. was my wife”… Jack’s eyes adjust to reveal Tony Almeida. Jack simply replies with “Tony” as the look on his face registers as pure shock.

We are left to believe that Chris Henderson recruited Tony well before day 5 and that Tony’s alleged death was nothing more than an elaborate hoax so that he could continue whatever work Henderson’s group has plans for. I guess we’re supposed to believe that Tony is recruiting Jack and this will lead us into the drastic season 7 change."

source : http://theoneandonlyd.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/24-im-setting-the-table/

now call me an idiot but i don't see tony working with henderson. not then, nor ever. especially since that would imply that he'd somehow have known about henderson's plans to kill palmer - and for crying out loud, henderson was about to kill tony, too, AND he killed michelle. just how stupid do the writers / or producers / or whoever this was - think we are? how much cr*p are we supposed to buy?

I'd sent this to MFL last night, and she rightily pointed out that,

"the "some people who want change" aspect, they are often subversives within the admin, which at worst can be akin to treason...To have Tony commit treason twice, I don't buy it."

I'm curious to see what you think...


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#6 2008-05-07 08:49:22

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

Well, if the bad guys are coming out of Africa then they will probably be the main villain arc, towards the end of the day, and tony will be the "bad guy" at the beggining. If he is bad of course.


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#7 2008-05-07 10:00:24

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

24nut wrote:

Well, if the bad guys are coming out of Africa then they will probably be the main villain arc, towards the end of the day, and tony will be the "bad guy" at the beggining. If he is bad of course.

yeah. but villains who start the season NEVER get out of ep 12 alive. with nina being the notable exception.


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"Yeah, I didn't wanna believe Tony Almeida was a terrorist either, but at some point we just have to deal with the facts. Not with what we want to believe is true."

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#8 2008-05-07 11:00:51

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

jack_addict wrote:

yeah. but villains who start the season NEVER get out of ep 12 alive. with nina being the notable exception.

Unfortunately Nina is the exception that proves the rule, you see the rule only applies if ...

a) the villain is on-screen someone in the first four episodes
b) is open about being the villain in the first four episodes.


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#9 2008-05-07 14:23:58

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

Just got a reply for the 24online webmaster and it was simply an error, if you take another look, she has now added Carlos' name to the cast list.


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#10 2008-05-07 20:09:05

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

hardy24 wrote:

Just got a reply for the 24online webmaster and it was simply an error, if you take another look, she has now added Carlos' name to the cast list.

hmm, funny how errors about tony keep happenning, starting from 5x13 wink. thanks for clearing that up for us, dan. now we're left with all those other unknown variables which of course will only be cleared up in 2009. aargh.


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"Yeah, I didn't wanna believe Tony Almeida was a terrorist either, but at some point we just have to deal with the facts. Not with what we want to believe is true."

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#11 2008-05-07 20:59:27

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

jack_addict wrote:
hardy24 wrote:

Just got a reply for the 24online webmaster and it was simply an error, if you take another look, she has now added Carlos' name to the cast list.

hmm, funny how errors about tony keep happenning, starting from 5x13 wink. thanks for clearing that up for us, dan. now we're left with all those other unknown variables which of course will only be cleared up in 2009. aargh.

I think perhaps you should move past your obsession with those numbers, I'm curious what you'd do if someone told you there birthday was 5-13. Or if you woke up at 5:13 in the morning or something.


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#12 2008-05-07 21:27:02

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

hardy24 wrote:
jack_addict wrote:
hardy24 wrote:

Just got a reply for the 24online webmaster and it was simply an error, if you take another look, she has now added Carlos' name to the cast list.

hmm, funny how errors about tony keep happenning, starting from 5x13 wink. thanks for clearing that up for us, dan. now we're left with all those other unknown variables which of course will only be cleared up in 2009. aargh.

I think perhaps you should move past your obsession with those numbers, I'm curious what you'd do if someone told you there birthday was 5-13. Or if you woke up at 5:13 in the morning or something.

lol. hmm. if i woke up at 5:13 in the morning the first thing you'd see me do is curse out loud cause it would probably mean trouble falling back asleep. other than that, i wouldn't think the annihilation of earth is imminent or something tongue.

hmm. may 13th is next week. i actually have a doctor's appointment then. haven't even realised the date.

so you see, dan, my obsession with those numbers is not really an obsession of the destructive kind, only of the annoying kind tongue

hmm. god that you mentioned. i think my mom's wedding anniversary is may 14th, (luckily). must not forget. lol


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#13 2008-05-07 21:33:28

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If there is ever a friday may 13th you probably best sleep through it.


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#14 2008-05-10 15:54:51

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

hardy24 wrote:

If there is ever a friday may 13th you probably best sleep through it.

lol. I'm sure that's already come about once or twice dan wink. I'm still here big_smile


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"Yeah, I didn't wanna believe Tony Almeida was a terrorist either, but at some point we just have to deal with the facts. Not with what we want to believe is true."

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#15 2008-05-10 16:54:00

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

jack_addict wrote:
hardy24 wrote:

If there is ever a friday may 13th you probably best sleep through it.

lol. I'm sure that's already come about once or twice dan wink. I'm still here big_smile

Yeah, I'm just wondering if local insurance companies still have a nightmare about the damage done on that day when a possessed spirit worked out some pent up rage.


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#16 2008-05-10 23:39:21

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Re: uhm.. what's the deal here? *possible spoilers*

hardy24 wrote:
jack_addict wrote:
hardy24 wrote:

If there is ever a friday may 13th you probably best sleep through it.

lol. I'm sure that's already come about once or twice dan wink. I'm still here big_smile

Yeah, I'm just wondering if local insurance companies still have a nightmare about the damage done on that day when a possessed spirit worked out some pent up rage.

lmao. is THAT why they upped my monthly premium the last time that happened? yikes


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