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as always, fresh off TWITTER:

vote for your fave 24 characters. tony is just leading the way, at the moment.

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unfortunately, renee's death was handled less than perfectly, imho. it didn't move me - and it should have, cause i loved her character. of course, the fact that i knew beforehand that an unfriendly sniper would catch her after she and jack had just got it on might have helped ruin the effect. but it really should have been more emotional, I dunno....

logan still makes me pissed off, and the fact that he was pardoned makes me sick.
poor michelle and david will be turning in their graves

putting chloe in charge of ctu was at least a little unexpected for lack of a better term... her social incompetence is legendary. but hey, she knows what she's doing. if jack had been there, he could have taken over, but we love him in the field on a personal revenge spree so i'll forgive the writers. now the question that is left is will chloe be doomed? cause we all know what happens to ctu directors.. they tend to... disappear. lol

hey, welcome to the forum, nice to hear some fresh thoughts. our forum is based in the UK but the current debriefs section basically allows for discussion of all the eps that have aired in the US. those who haven't seen the eps won't read the thread until they've done so, if they care about spoilers. so feel free to share details of what you thought. I've seen those eps, and I did like them. they're not fresh enough in my mind though to discuss them right now.

needless to say, these images are highly spoilerific, especially the 2nd page. the first page does not say too much.

so think before you click!

you've been warned

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man, where would we be without TWITTER these days? LOL

enjoy.

Twitter proves to be the most efficient way of breaking news on life and death of 24 these days.

Not so long ago (we're talking minutes, not hours), Jon Cassar, Rodney Charters and Mary-Lynn Rajskub commented that 24 will end its run after 8 years. I suppose there's still the possibility of a movie franchise, but there will be no 9th season - not on FOX and not on NBC.

This article on our front page cites the original posts on twitter:

http://24fans.com/2010/03/breaking-news-24-cancelled-according-to-jon-cassar/

This decision should come as no surprise to most of you. It certainly doesn't come as a surprise to me. This season has been less than satisfying, and I've been reading and hearing disappointed comments, to which I can only nod in agreement (and have done so in my article http://24fans.com/2010/03/running-out-of-steam-j_as-thoughts/ ).

It's time for 24 to go. Sad but true.

Sound off. What do you think?

as it is, the forum, site, and me seem to be quite slow, and I am not downloading this season, so I am restricted to watching online, which means I cant run and rerun moments I'd like to see, so my memory of everything is sketchy at best.

for example - referring to dan and steve's posts in the 08-01 discussion thread - who is Buffy husband? and who does Starbuck refer to? I like the nicknames, but can't put cahracters names to them.

that being said, my main point about these eps has to be

Renee Walker.

that chick's insane - right? no, she's totally bauer. not only did we have the "I'm gonna need a hacksaw" moment there in ep 4 ("I'm not gonna cut the bracelet") but imho, the writers are putting renee into a place that jack has been to before, and making her the next tony of sorts.

let me explain.

renee between s7 and s8 is in a dark place, the kind of place jack was in between s1 and s2 (and come to think of it, it's also the place that tony's been to between s3 and s4). she'd "gone through a rough patch" and claims to have come out on the other side, but jack doesn't believe her.

so, now they're putting renee back undercover with some really bad people she used to be undercover with (hello jack in s2 AND s3) and hear hear, part of her cover story includes mexico (really no need to comment on that). apparently she'd been beaten by vladimir (btw, love that actor, knew him from californication) and she willingly agrees to go back - knowing very well that chances are that she won't make it out alive.

talk about a deathwish...

what she'll need in order to snap out of it is a purpose - just like a purpose, a mission, made jack overcome his deathwish in s2, and helping to save a friend and see things through with him made tony rediscover a purpose in life in s4 (of course, combined with reuniting with michelle). so my guess is that by the end of this season, assuming renee will make it through, she'll have found a reason to live - might that be jack?

at this point, though, bauer is no more than a babysitter - and not a very good one either. who DIDN'T know that car was a decoy? jack... really. I'd have thought he would have checked for the possibility of being screwed over... but oh well. maybe that's cause he'd been out of the field. he needs to resharpen his senses, especially his 6th sense.

renee, on the other hand, and her development, is running the show right now. at the very least, she's stealing bauer's show. the parallels continue. that she "cut off thumb!" in order to get rid of a bracelet like jack had done in s3 has already been mentioned - but I guess you really didn't expect that of a girl, didya? I dug that.

renee's changed, and as dark as the change is, it suits her. I actually like her better this way. i even prefer her current looks to the kempt and shirt-and-suit-dressed fbi agent.

if tony used to be the one that - with time - went through basically everything jack had gone through, now it seems to be renee's turn to go through the things jack (and by extension tony) had gone through.

this season will probably be relatively renee-centric, and we'll see her dealing with similar questions and situations that jack had had to deal with in the past. there should be interesting moments, and you know, wasn't it kind of ironic that ajack accused her of being unstable after she'd cut off the thumb when - as renee rightly said - he would have done the same thing? renee will probably get to use that same phrase often enough to justify her actions in the field, while jack might continue to feel the need to protect her from becoming like him.

one more word about jack before I go and do stuff I should be doing. we've seen him resist getting sucked back into the world of CTU for longer than he usually has, and like someone suggested, it might be a recurring theme this season, with him trying to take every chance he has to get out. but I liked it that his reason for actually allowing CTU to get him back was renee. that it was his human component, his worry for renee and wanting to protect her, that made him stay, and not just some monumental task of saving the world (yeah, the nukes are getting REALLY old. how often will terrorists manage to smuggle nuclear weapons into the USofA??)  jack's motivations are human and emotional, and I guess that's also why I still care.

I like the pacing of the eps, the slow development, and think they have pretty much learned from s7. the side- and subplots are interesting enough, and the characters' 3-dimensionality is acceptable.

there are lots of things to complain about however. first of all, who does background checks at CTU's HR office? how does an ex-con get on the CTU payroll? how does hastings get the post of CTU director without having investigative blood in him? and who designed CTU as a diner? seriously, the first time I saw pics of the new CTU it reminded me of a family diner... like Dennis or something. but for now I'm willing to suspend my criticism, because of renee and because of jack.

and because, frankly, once 24 is over with, I will miss it.

to all my dear friends!

I guess he got tired of hearing "Will you or won't you be part of 24's Season 8?", so he decided to finally answer it.

This was posted on Carlos Bernard's homepage (http://www.carlosbernard.com/CBSite/News/News.html) a day or two ago:

I’m asked this question on a daily basis, so I might as well answer it. I’ll never say never when it comes to 24.  It’s been such a special part of my life and an honor working with all of the incredibly talented people that have helped make the show the success that it’s been.  That being said, I have not been contacted by the studio or producers of 24 about season 8.  They’re already well into filming next season and I’m about to start work on a film in South Carolina.  So, at this point, I highly doubt that I’ll be involved in the next season of 24.

but with these eyes, how could they not! lol.